"Civil" Obama ignores Hillary...

So much for Obama's clam he's "above the fray" and the "reconciliation candidate" ;)

Of course I'm sure this wont get a front page entry like what seems to happen if God forbid Clinton doesn't bend over backwards to praise Barack...

WASHINGTON (CNN) - It could have been a moment for Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to demonstrate the civility they say we need in our politics.

Oh, well.

Before the President entered the House Chamber for the State of the Union address, Clinton took a seat three chairs and an aisle away from Obama. While members of Congress were still greeting one another, Clinton crossed the aisle to speak with Democratic Rep. Jim Langvin of Rhode Island, a Clinton supporter. He was seated in front of Obama.

While Clinton was bent over talking to Langvin, who has been in a wheelchair since age 16, the senator sitting next to Barack Obama watched Clinton intently. It was Sen. Ted Kennedy, who had made a splash by endorsing Obama earlier in the day.

Here's where it could have happened.

When Clinton straightened up, Kennedy quickly reached across Barack Obama to shake Clinton's hand. She took it. As they spoke, Obama turned away. Then the senators seated to Obama's right - Ben Nelson and Ken Salazar -- both shook Senator Clinton's hand and talked to her. Instead of doing the same, Obama turned to look at the back of the room. Sen. Claire McCaskill, who has also endorsed Obama and was seated next to Kennedy, reached across the Massachusetts senator -- who was still talking to Clinton -- and tapped Obama (still twisted toward the back of the room) on the shoulder. McCaskill engaged Obama in conversation until the moment passed.

It all lasted less than five minutes. Neither acknowledged the other all night.

-CNN's Jessica Yellin

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/200 8/01/28/state-of-the-union-awkward-momen t/



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Re: "Civil" Obama ignores Hillary... (none / 0)

Yawn...

This sounds like Junior High when one has to gossip about what happened at the state of the union.

Who cares.


by puma on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 06:26:11 AM EST

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Amazing how Obama turned on the beam machine with frigging George W. Bush, but was acting like a scorned lover with Hillary.   I see that several of the Feb. 5 contests are showing Obama in the 60s as for favorability, whereas Clinton gets close to or above 80s (Missouri, Alabama.)

  This stuff (also called showing some class) is part of the reason why Hillary is liked very much amongst Democrats whereas Obama is regarded as "ok, just not great" with many of us.  


by georgep on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:05:40 AM EST
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Clinton fetishists care.  HRC and her universe matter more than progressive politics.  Get with the program.


by PositiveFreedom on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 06:45:58 AM EST

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Maybe we would talk more about that if Obama actually discussed progressive politics rather than just spouting rhetoric.  His entire campaign is based on him representing hope, being above "dirty politics", and heading this nation in another direction, yet his actions time after time (including the way he deliberately ignored Clinton last night) prove how fake it all is.


by musicpvm on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 06:52:13 AM EST
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Like Oh My God (none / 0)

Like Barack is like so totally, like, rude.


by nerdoff on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 06:50:59 AM EST

Re: Like Oh My God (none / 0)

Yep so rude.  Oh no the world will never be the same.


by puma on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 07:12:48 AM EST
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Anyone who sees this will make up their own mind. (none / 0)

They are not going to be dependant on your interpretations. It's not very important but he told me a lot about himself by that gesture.


by ottovbvs on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 08:33:06 AM EST
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it just proves (none / 0)

that Obama is not ready to run against Republicans.


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 08:07:42 AM EST

Are you serious? (none / 0)

If this is what the Clinton supporters come up with, then I think Obama sounds like a pretty decent guy. The worst you can think of is "he's not being nice!!" The worst I can think of the Clinton's is that they're disingenuous, power hungry and thoroughly corrupted.


by highgrade on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 08:10:41 AM EST

Re: Are you serious? (none / 0)

It's exactly people like you that he is playing to with this stunt.

At this stage in the campaign, the last thing he wants to do is signal to his supporters that Hillary is a decent human being worthy of respect.  He wants to keep firing up people like you who believe the exact opposite.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 08:17:41 AM EST
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Re: Are you serious? (none / 0)

I'm not reacting to him. If I were him, I would have acknowledged her. But to me it's just not that big of a deal. I'm reacting to you people acting like he's declaring personal war on Hillary. I think that despite their frosty relationship that Obama has been more than civil during the campaign thus far. It seems to me that all of his criticisms have been either policy or process related - perfectly acceptable during an election. Whereas the Clinton's first campaign leak was that Obama was apparently an addict that would sell cocaine to your children.  


by highgrade on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:27:32 AM EST
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Re: Are you serious? (none / 0)

So you accept he didn't behave as well as you would have done. That's fair. All the rest is self justificatory spin and you know it.


by ottovbvs on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:36:43 AM EST
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A trivial moment but a compelling insight. (none / 0)

It's called grace under pressure. She showed it he didn't. It interesting I'm reading Arthur Schlesingers journals at the moment and he comments on exactly this sort of behavior by Gene McCarthy and the general extremism and ranting of his followers on the extreme left back in 1968. Nothing much changes.  


by ottovbvs on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 08:30:47 AM EST

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This is just another example of how Obama is too immature to build bridges as he claims he can do.

Other examples:
1) His inhuman "You're likable enough Hillary" comment at the debate without even looking at her.

2) He didn't call to congratulate her after her win in Nevada, as is customary... not to mention honorable.

I no longer think he is in this race for the right reasons. I believe I've heard his rant before... about 8 years ago by someone promising he'd bring change and compassion to D.C. Enough people bought it and now we're all waiting for that nightmare to end.

OK, OK, I don't think Obama would be as bad as Bush, BUT this does give you insight into how he would deal with other leaders that he disagrees with... much like Bush.


by Mr Man on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 09:25:16 AM EST

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Obama seems a bit immature with this behavior, which he appears to have elevated to a "personal" level.  It permeates through the campaign, where he barely acknowledged Hillary's victory in New Hampshire (basically added on top sentence to an actual victory speech) and did not even with a single word communicate any congratulatory note after the Nevada caucus, in sharp contrast to the aftermath of South Carolina, where Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton showed a lot of class and offered strong congratulatory statement that took nothing away from Obama's impressive showing in SC.  

The difference seems to be a show of CLASS, which would suit Obama at this point more so than hubris or showoff.  

And, as I have pointed out many, many times since Obama got into the race, there is absolutely nothing humble about Obama, which to me (and I believe many) is a turnoff.  We have gone through almost 8 years with a guy who has no humble bone in his body, and it is crass and petty in the end.  


by georgep on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:00:25 AM EST

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"Amazing how Obama turned on the beam machine with frigging George W. Bush, but was acting like a scorned lover with Hillary."--georgerep

Bit by bit we are beginning to get the measure of the man who would be president. Obama clearly loves the thrill of proximity to establishment power and powerful people. You want to bet Obama won't compromise healthcare and roll over just for a tummy tickle from the establishment?

By another account, at the State of the Union event Obama also went out of his way to greet the entire dreaded Bush apparatus, the Joint Chiefs, Cabinet, Supremes. Hillary Clinton? Why bother, the Clintons are yesterday's news according to MSNBC, trailer trash from Arkansas according to the Beltway, no effort needed there.  To Obama: remember New Hampshire.


by superetendar on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 10:53:09 AM EST

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This is silliness of the highest order.

I guess we just have to add this to the varied criticisms of Obama: He's too nice; He's not nice enough; He's too liberal; He's too conservative; His base is too narrow; His base is too disparate; He can't win in the North; He can't win in the South; Only conservative Democrats like Katherine Sebelius like him; Only liberal Democrats like Ted Kennedy like him; Only youngsters like him; Only the establishment likes him; He's too crooked; He's too naive.


by the mollusk on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 11:05:17 AM EST

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Now it all makes sense. As his website says:

Barack Obama stands for a new kind of politics -- a politics without partisan bickering and smear tactics.

He doesn't like partisan bickering and smear tactics, but he seems to be okay with intra-party bickering and smear tactics.


by LakersFan on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 12:04:28 PM EST

Child like Cliques (none / 0)

This sounds like a band camp story. Did anyone do anything with a flute?


"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:37:42 PM EST


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